Hi Rolandh -- Republic Wireless 4.0 to 5.0 + new phone

Yes that’s me on Reddit – I was looking for some answers/help and tried there before I found this new community.

So maybe I’m Pollyanna-ish, or lazy, or…? I had heard negative things about changing to 5.0, but I also wondered if maybe people got it to work and just couldn’t post on the forum anymore because they were no longer allowed on the community forum?

My phone needed to be replaced, so I figured I try the switchover to 5.0 with a new RW Moto gPower 2022 phone.

The activation process was simple, but didn’t work, and I ended up calling CS several times. Some things about after activation procedures, I later found, are somewhere in the RW website, but weren’t linked with the activation process I saw. I could have read and followed the directions instead of calling.

So right now my phone is set up, but my mobile data signal is weak (-114 dBm) at home, so I can’t send/receive texts at home or some other areas. RW CS said to wait a few days…not sure if that will help. I live in a populated area with good coverage, according to the coverage map.

My plan is to test it for 1-2 weeks. If it’s bad, I’ll port out before my payment is due. I don’t want to get into a refund battle with them.

Like everyone else, I mourn the loss of the old RW. I also had Ting before RW, and Virgin Mobile before that, and never had issues like I have now.

Hi @NancyM

I’m sure @rolandh will chime in, but I wanted to make sure you saw this info he wrote and have already gone through the troubleshooting steps he indicated there: Are You Having Cellular Connectivity Issues? Confirming you’ve done so before he responds (probably tomorrow) may save you a little time.

It does seem odd that you’d have such a weak signal - you’re checking an AT&T coverage map? I can’t imagine what "wait a few days" is supposed to fix.

Good Morning @NancyM,

Yes that’s me on Reddit – I was looking for some answers/help and tried there before I found this new community!

There’s nothing at all wrong with that. For the most part, the folks on RW’s subreddit are doing their best to be helpful. That said; when they repeat inaccurate information provided to them by support as if it were fact, it doesn’t work out as intended.

So maybe I’m Pollyanna-ish, or lazy, or…? I had heard negative things about changing to 5.0, but I also wondered if maybe people got it to work and just couldn’t post on the forum anymore because they were no longer allowed on the community forum?

Indeed; there were a lot of negative posts regarding Republic 5.0 on the old Community, however, that doesn’t mean no one has had a successful experience with Republic 5.0. My experience moving from My Choice to Republic 5.0 was successful. An unfortunate reality concerning human nature is we are, generally, far more likely to share our complaints than we are to relate a success story.

The activation process was simple, but didn’t work, and I ended up calling CS several times. Some things about after activation procedures, I later found, are somewhere in the RW website, but weren’t linked with the activation process I saw. I could have read and followed the directions instead of calling.

Presumably, you are referring to the post activation steps outlined in Republic’s help document linked here: Finish Setting Up Your Phone.

So right now my phone is set up, but my mobile data signal is weak (-114 dBm) at home, so I can’t send\/receive texts at home or some other areas.

Cellular signal is like real estate. It’s all about location, location, location. Each of the three national networks (AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon) have areas of weak coverage (even in populated areas and when their maps suggest otherwise). For example, in my area I would rate coverage for the three national networks as follows:

  1. Verizon
  2. T-Mobile
  3. AT&T

All three are reasonably robust in my area, so my experience going from My Choice (cellular coverage provided by T-Mobile’s network) to Republic 5.0 (cellular coverage provided by AT&T’s network) has been fine despite T-Mobile’s network being providing slightly better coverage overall.

RW CS said to wait a few days…not sure if that will help.

At best, this is wishful thinking on support’s part.

I live in a populated area with good coverage, according to the coverage map.

Would you be comfortable sharing a zip code (nothing more) for your area, so we might take a peek at what the maps say coverage in your area should be?

My plan is to test it for 1-2 weeks. If it’s bad, I’ll port out before my payment is due. I don’t want to get into a refund battle with them.

You have 30-days to test 5.0 service. If, however, the phone was purchased from RW by DISH’s online store, only 14-days to return the phone. Was the phone purchased from RW by DISH’s online store or unlocked from a third party retailer?

Like everyone else, I mourn the loss of the old RW.

In the preceding paragraph, I explicitly referenced RW by DISH. As much as it pains me to utter those words I do so to differentiate the old RW from the entity now calling itself RW by DISH. As far as I’m concerned they are and shall forever be two separate and distinct things. This Community is intended to carry on in the spirit of the original RW.

I also had Ting before RW, and Virgin Mobile before that, and never had issues like I have now!

Historically, Ting has been a quality service provider. Like RW, the Ting Mobile brand is now operated by DISH. Virgin Mobile was folded into Boost, which is also now operated by DISH.

We’ll do our best to get Republic 5.0 working well for you as, despite what was posted on RW’s now closed Community and on Reddit, it does for many of us. If unsuccessful, we stand ready to help you find an alternative. My household is not and never has been RW exclusive in terms of mobile service providers.

Hi Roland and Southpaw!

Working on my RW 5.0 phone has become my new full-time job. No complaints about the phone (got from RW store).

I just don’t have much of a signal (-116 dBm recent check). I’ve done the Carrier app – didn’t work (bad recent reviews on Play Store).

I manually input the APNs.

I seem to be able to text, send a photo, and do a cellular call, but I just don’t trust the signal level. So I’ll test it out for another week – as I drive places I’ll check, etc. But at home, it’s almost no signal!

My other emergency phone is on Tello (T Mobile), and is pretty good, but I don’t use it much.

If I go searching for a new carrier, I’ll do either T Mobile again (with 4.0 RW, it was fine), or maybe try Verizon.

Thanks for your help, and it’s nice “seeing” you again in a community!

Hi @NancyM

Are you able to turn on WiFi calling? That might help bridge the gap if the only low-coverage area is at home.

Luckily I do have good WiFi at home, and the phone does WIFi calling.

The AT&T signal seems to stay on a bit more, but it’s still low strength (-115dBm) I never did measure RW 4.0 signal, because I rarely had problems with it (except rural areas).

I’m just testing the 5.0 out for a bit, and I’ll change carriers if needed! I just don’t feel like carrier shopping and switching again, but I’ll do it if I have to.

@rolandh – formatting question about your reply above – how do you make the quote and your edits (with the grey line)? I tried doing the quote, but I can’t edit it and get that cool grey line.

If you step outdoors when at home, does signal strength improve? I’m heavily reliant on WiFi calling indoors because building construction (rebar reinforced concrete block) in South Florida kills cell signal strength indoors.

At my house, if I step outside, it doesn’t improve.

I talked with CS again tonight – they said that a tower has been under repair since last week and hopefully should be done soon. I’m not sure whether to believe them!!

I checked my signal as I drove around to different nearby towns (errands, etc). Sometimes there would be more bars, but the best signal strength I’ve seen is -110 dBm, which is very weak.

Then today, my phone could not make/receive calls, even though I was on my home WiFi. RW CS said to do the APNs again – I tried the Carrier app 2x (didn’t work) and manually input the APNs from their instructions, twice (Carrier app wiped them out). I don’t think they know what else to do!

So I’m preparing for the fact that I will probably have to port out to another carrier. It’s not the worst thing in the world, and many other people from the community have done the same! Oh well!

Hi @NancyM,

With all the respect that’s due to RW by DISH support, redoing the APNs would, at best, fix cellular calling issues. APNs, generally, don’t govern WiFi calling.

First, I suggest we straighten out the APNs.To do that:

  1. Uninstall CarrierApp
  2. Reset the phone’s APNs to defaults
  3. Restart the Phone
  4. Open Settings
  5. Tap Network & internet
  6. Tap Mobile network
  7. Tap Advanced
  8. Tap Access Point Names
  9. Since your 2022 Moto G Power was purchased directly from RW by DISH, you should already see eReseller, Resellermht and SOS APNs (no CarrierApp required).
  10. Verify eReseller is selected.

Here’s some further background regarding CarrierApp. Folks (including support) get confused because CarrierApp has no user interface. One installs it, restarts the phone and if all goes as it’s supposed to CarrierApp does its thing in the background. If one then makes manual edits to the phone’s APNs, CarrierApp needs to be uninstalled then reinstalled in order for it to do its thing again.

The previous paragraph notwithstanding, I advise not continuing to follow support’s repeated suggestions regarding resetting APNs. As long as they’re correctly set as described above, they have no impact whatsoever on WiFi calling.

So I’m preparing for the fact that I will probably have to port out to another carrier. It’s not the worst thing in the world, and many other people from the community have done the same!

No, moving to another service provider is a perfectly logical alternative when unable to resolve service issues with one’s current provider. As this Community is not sponsored by RW by DISH (or another service provider) you are more than welcome to remain active here if you so choose whether you choose to remain an RW by DISH customer or not.

You need to know, however, the 2022 Moto G Power RW by DISH sold you is locked. Using it with another service provider requires asking for it to be unlocked, which, in turn, requires another call to support.

I had already manually reset the APNs according to the online instructions, and eReseller is selected. The last time I called RW CS they said to download the Carrier app – I said no, I had done it 2x and it didn’t work, and Google Play reviews for it are terrible. Then they said reset APNs manually, which I had done 2x (Carrier app had deleted what I typed in).

The last thing they told me 2 days ago was that a tower nearby was under repair. The signal has been slightly better since, though still weak (-105 dBm).

So I’m still testing it out, but I’m prepared to port out if needed. Thanks for the reminder that the phone is locked. Hopefully that won’t be too much of an ordeal.

I still will be reading the community posts – I don’t know much about cell phones and people submit interesting questions and insights that have been helpful over the years.